Just making a short post. If there are any primary sources (or secondary sources that link to primary sources) on the reception of Hatsune Miku NT or Piapro NT, I'd love to see them. So far I only know of one NT review that I will eventually add to the software's reception section.
What's on your mind?
I most likely overreacted with this change.
So that whole "Balding Miku" edit might have made me become a little too strict when it comes to restrictions. Instead of having only registered users being allowed to edit the character pages, I changed the restriction to only administrators and content moderators.
As for the person who made the edit, they made a comment linking to various Twitter posts about "Balding Miku." I responded simply by saying that type of information is not necessarily what the page needs, and that "Balding Miku" is more of an opinion, artists have different art styles and draw hair differently, etc.
If this causes any issues please notify me. This change will most likely be temporary as this Wiki is small.
So we're less then a month and 1/2 away from 2020.
There is suppose to be more news coming out soon, I'm not excited and the wiki has reached a halt while we wait.
Twiddling thumbs here.
I hate to say it, I think the biggest issue for this wiki going forard is the Vocaloid fans.
They can't seem to accept that Miku's not going to be a Vocaloid going forward.
I keep saying nothing change what was, but this is now Miku and co's past.
This inability to accept that things have change, may prove to hold both wikias back.
So I'm going to write a list of articles I ay have to ask if I can transfer over, these articles aren't Vocaloid based, but rather their CFM merchandising based for the most part. To clarify what is not going to be transferred indefinitely, I'll list it here whats currently on the table;
Articles to Transfer;
*Anything related to racing Miku
*Anything related to Snow Miku
*Derivative pages, except the Derivative page itself
*Merchandise that is based on non-Vocaloid designs (a great sort ahead of us), this including Vocaloid song derivate designs (so that figurine of V
Article not to transfer;
*The pages involving the Vocaloid software such as "Hatsune Miku (Vocaloid2)", etc
*Songs currently based only on Vocaloid
*Merchandise that is based on Vocaloid designs for example Dollfie Dream.
*Current Project Diva pages (until they become soul PS song based, there is no need)
*Magical Mirai stuff that features Vocaloid stuff
If anyone can think of anything else, thats fine, but if their not listed its possible I just forgot them.
I repeat; nothing based on the Vocaloid or Vocaloid designs or vcoaloid song designs will be transferred here. If a song made in Vocaloid later gets remade in PS, then the two wikia will end up with copies of the same article, this is fine.
I've put a poll up at the front in regards to the Kagamines.
On the Vocaloid wiki, because most of the content will be repeated and because they were never sold separately they have always been bundled together. I doubt they will be released separately even now, but I've put the poll up for feed back.
Project Diva should be treated like this;
*If it has a song with Vocaloid synth usage, then continue to update the pages on the Vocaloid wiki.
*If it has a song with the PS usage, then a page should belong here.
Yes, it may prove there will be two copies of the same information on both wiki, but this is a tough one to deal with. Right now all the Project Diva games feature songs only on Vocaloid, so there isn't a rush anyway.
They don't have anything mentioning them here.
Since people have brought it up I was thinking about deleting the pages on Vocaloid wiki, there is more reasoning the pages exist here then the Vocaloid wiki. I'm trying to keep everyone on the same page on the situation with Haku and Neru, there has been some knee-jerk reactions at my proposal.
I'll say it again in regards to the pages on the Vocaloid wiki and in relationship to them needing to be here; nothing can be done fully until 2020. We don't know how the transfer to PS will impact their characters of Haku and Neru yet and for all we know, they could even end up with voicebanks of their own. If that would be the case, it would be the ultimate game change and decide once and for all the future of these characters handling on the wikis they've ended up on.
I'm debating on keeping Bueaucrat status for a little longer as there is still much to do here, its just not possible to do a lot of it yet.
Anyway, I'm thinking of removing the activity section off the front page and adding a trivia thing like on the Voclaoid wiki. Random trivias tend to be better then site activity.
Well, thats pretty much it for now.
Going over things, aside from reputation thats it. So now we're waiting for later this year when CFM gives out information.
As stated numerous times, I have attempted to add color to the infoboxes. So far I have been able to get colored text on this Wiki, I just have issues with the CSS code for the theme colors and where that should be placed. Currently I have an ongoing discussion about this on the Community Central Forum (link to my question/discussion here), and they've been extremely helpful. I attempted to follow their directions and add the color theme CSS code to the name = part of the box, or the top of the box, but all it does is break the infobox.
Other than attempting to fix this, I believe that part of my issue is not understanding the coding language. Most of my "coding" on this Wiki has been trial and error. Hopefully this can be solved on Miku's page first, and then carried on to the other pages.
So as you guys know I just threw a temp. badly constructed "Dir" template up...Yeah... Thisis what it may be like for a while, for me at least, I'm more interested in fleshing out information then I am in setting up codes and tables.
Its mostly because I'm not very good at it, but it will make do, the "DIR" uses code from other wikis and it not in its current state a permanent fixture, not does it want to be.
I did not realize that CFM was moving their VOCALOID products to their own separate engine, though I did sort of expect this when Piapro Studio initially came out. It seems as if they will still work with Yamaha on vocal synth research, which is fantastic. Now this separate WIki makes more sense.
From what I have seen online, this new synth will be the current Piapro Studio, just without the VOCALOID source code, some plug ins, etc. As for the product being "compatible with existing tools" as stated on MikuFan, does that mean it will work as a standalone + VST?
What I find interesting though is the whole "Buy the voice once, but you get upgrades!" feature that was listed. Hopefully upgrades are free? (This would be an awful excuse to buy every single Crypton voice if they improve the tone/recording quality).
Vocal Drive is just standard vocal effects, nothing new. As for cherry pie, it seems to be what Vocalistener was. The cherry pie tool is both good, and bad. Hopefully, it can be used to break down these vocal phrases within the editor, but at the same time, can be used as "cheating."
So far, based on everything I have seen, I am very excited for this program, and am wondering whether it will be worth the purchase.
Of course, I still would like to see how Yamaha's VOCALOID progresses and improves with the research being done on vocal synthesis.
I currently own VOCALOID4 and was considering purchasing VOCALOID5. If I purchase this new "Piapro Studio," I am still eligible for a possible VOCALOID6 upgrade.
Sorry. I'm excited about this. Sadly I don't have much to compare it to though since I have only worked with VOCALOID4.
P.S. I have heard that V5 was a financial disaster for Yamaha, possibly due to many factors. Will the "Cryptonloids" leaving significantly affect VOCALOID on a financial level?
So, this has been asked before a few times so I'll clarify;
*Songs made with their upcoming Piapro Software engine will be here. Songs with Vocaloid will remain on the Vocaloid wiki, as thats dedicated to Vocaloid.
*Merchadise coming out since August 31st 2019 will be added here as thats the date declared Miku is leaving.
*All further and future information on Miku and co as well as Piapro Studio. Only stuff that is to do with Vocaloid remains on that wiki.
Basically, the Vocaloid wiki will handle "the past" and this one is handling "the future".
*Past Miku and co are Vocaloids,
*Present Miku and co are not.
There are some people who don't know the definition of "Vocaloid" but as it stands... Miku *was* but isn't one and this is going to reflect here and the Vocaloid wiki, its as simple as that.
Any further questions, please ask away, I'm not the ultimate authority on this as all wikis are a community project, so things are subject to change.
If you need a cut off date for anything, its 31st of August 2019. The most major next date is going to be the release of the actually PS software in 2020.
Note; its going to take a while to establish this wiki, so its a complete sandbox "WIP" at the moment. And I can only do "x" amount each day myself.
All we can do is wait for editors and see if they decide to come here. It will help a lot.